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Say you pull up to a regular looking Crown Vic at a stoplight.  Get a clear look at the driver, wearing a nice white shirt and tie.  Normal MO license plates, no spotlight, visible radio, nothing out of the ordinary.  This is not the typical White or Black color of an unmarked police cruiser.

Pull away from the stoplight, minding your business, and yes speeding a little.  Next thing you see is that Crown Vic on you tail, flashing it brights.  You keep driving thinking this guy is being odd, or likes your car.  Next thing you hear a police siren.  Look in your rearview, still see that Crown Vic and guy in the nice shirt and tie trying to get your attention.  But there are No flashing lights (unless you count the brights being flicked on and off on occasion).  Thinking there is a cop car behind the big truck that is behind the Crown Vic you pull over, so does the truck and Crown Vic.  Siren stops, don't see a police officer or police car coming so you start to pull away - thinking they must have turned off.

Then you realize when the siren coming on again it is coming from the Crown Vic.  Now the person in the nice Suit an Tie is visibly PISSED.  Pulls along side you while you are moving and with windows down, demands you pull over.  You scream across, "Are you a Police Officer"  only response is "Pull over now before I haul you in."

Would you stop?

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'05 Subaru WRX STi

Disclaimer:  my brother is a detective, my brother a police officer.

 

Would I pull over, sort of.    I would pull over in a store parking lot, and call 911.  Explain the situation.  Have a uniformed, marked police car dispached to the scene.    Any  yahoo can get a siren, lights, and even a badge from the internet or GALS magazine.   A police officer should identify him/her self from square one.

 

 

 

 

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I'd keep driving until I saw a marked officer or to the closest cop shop... maybe even call 911 and explain the situation. They'd be able to figure it out one way or the other... or pop the guy for impersonating an officer.

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Scott Rhea
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It depends, if I am in an certain Subaru, he is gonna have an interesting time "hauling me in".  That wing will continuously become smaller and smaller in his view until it hits a vanishing point.  If I am in a more moderate vehicle, I will pull over in a heavily populated shopping center, etc.

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So what happened?

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ChrisHammond.com
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Nope, I wouldnt stop for that, but would definatly put a call in to 911

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Terec
2000 Cougar
1985 MR2, what have i done?

Like I posted in the Subaru forum, I've been in the situation and know I wouldn't stop.  White Ford Taurus followed and flashed brights at me on a public road for half a mile one night.  Finally he throws up a red light on the roof, so I pull over, thinking it was campus security or something and nothing was going to really happen.  Then he walks up to the door and I see a Clayton PD uniform and badge...

He was visibly pissed and yelled at me for not pulling over.  Explaining to him that I would never pull over for an unmarked vehicle flashing his brights only made him more mad.  I think that is completely uncalled for. 

Just a siren wouldn't make me pull over.  A kid tried to mess with me one night in his 92 Integra since he wired a switch up to his car alarm.  Turned it on and flashed his brights :lol:  No way I was pulling over for that.  

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Jey Ping
1998 Subaru Legacy Wagon EJ257 Hybrid Turbo
1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
2003 Chevrolet Tahoe LT

Just to throw a couple of more scenarios into the mix: O'fallon, MO uses an unmarked white Ford Explorer on it's traffic patrol and the Highway Patrol has a full size extended cab Chevy Truck that I have seen several times on 40/61 with people pulled over. It has door stickers though.

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Highway patrol has a grey Dodge Charger that is completely unmarked too, I have seen other jurisdictions with unmarked cars - Olivette, and I think Richmond Heights and Rock Hill.  But all the unmarked units I have seen have full red/blue lights in the grille/mirrors/windshield/rear deck.  My problem with pulling over for a vehicle that just flashes its brights or even for a guy that is not even in uniform that yells out the window "Pull Over" is that that sort of tactic does not allow me to differentiate between a police officer or a road rage lunatic.  Using the siren without lights is a bit unconventional - I have gotten pulled over many times and never have I heard a siren.  Siren to me means "get out of the way". 

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Jey Ping
1998 Subaru Legacy Wagon EJ257 Hybrid Turbo
1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
2003 Chevrolet Tahoe LT

No red and blue, no uniform, no stop

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Terec
2000 Cougar
1985 MR2, what have i done?

John P:

Say you pull up to a regular looking Crown Vic at a stoplight.  Get a clear look at the driver, wearing a nice white shirt and tie.  Normal MO license plates, no spotlight, visible radio, nothing out of the ordinary.  This is not the typical White or Black color of an unmarked police cruiser.

Pull away from the stoplight, minding your business, and yes speeding a little.  Next thing you see is that Crown Vic on you tail, flashing it brights.  You keep driving thinking this guy is being odd, or likes your car.  Next thing you hear a police siren.  Look in your rearview, still see that Crown Vic and guy in the nice shirt and tie trying to get your attention.  But there are No flashing lights (unless you count the brights being flicked on and off on occasion).  Thinking there is a cop car behind the big truck that is behind the Crown Vic you pull over, so does the truck and Crown Vic.  Siren stops, don't see a police officer or police car coming so you start to pull away - thinking they must have turned off.

Then you realize when the siren coming on again it is coming from the Crown Vic.  Now the person in the nice Suit an Tie is visibly PISSED.  Pulls along side you while you are moving and with windows down, demands you pull over.  You scream across, "Are you a Police Officer"  only response is "Pull over now before I haul you in."

Would you stop?

So what ended up happening?

Are you like posting this from your car or something?  Don't leave us hangin'!

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Sorry, wrote this right before I went to Chicago for the Labor day weekend.......

Ok, so I pulled over. I figured if I for a second don't think this guy is a cop, I'm gone. I half think he's a lunatic, half-buy his siren and attitude when he pulled along side me on the road I was on. He has his badge out as he walks up to the car, I get a close look and think to myself "oh crap, he IS a cop." Now I must reiterate I WAS speeding, at least 15 over - I wasn't looking, late for work. He went to run my license and call for uniformed officers to come, but as he went back to his car realized that his lights were not on. Checked it out and realized the switch for his lights were on but they were not working - he couldn't see that until he was out of the car I guess. He stopped, gave me back my license,basically told me he understands why I didn't immediatly stop and let me go with a warning.

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'05 Subaru WRX STi

did you tell him to get that switch looked at? and I don't want to see you driving around here again flashing lights at people.

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